What can MEN do when all the groups which claim to be supporting and advocating for the rights of fathers, the rights of MEN, turn out to be controlled and dominated by misandrist feminists and their mangina* pussy boys. These faux men's groups divert our energy down useless dead ends and into supporting feminists. Unless MEN take control of our own groups and stop pandering to the feminazi agenda we will NEVER get anything accomplished. Pandering to feminism is exactly why MEN are the subhuman oxen in law and society today. * From the Urban Dictionary:
A male lackey of the feminist hate movement (Usually called a 'male feminist'), who views women as superior to men and always bows down to and agrees with women in an attempt to curry favour, especially his abusive, man-hating wife who will screw him over in the divorce court, ruin his life and reputation, whelp a child that isn't his and sting him for money for said child. In short, a man-slave. Almost all married men these days are manginas, and so are a slightly less number of single men.
'Oprah's just a show for women and manginas, man!'
A recent example of a faux men's rights group The Indiana Civil Rights Council
, IndianaCRC on Yahoo, showing it's true mangina agenda happened on Wednesday, May 17, 2006, when a hate mongering cunt demanded that Bob be silenced. Despite posted opinions of other MEN and females in the group, the mangina pussy boy group owner, (Torm L. Howse, "firstname.lastname@example.org") licked their feminist boots and joined in her feminist misandry. Pussy boy Howse whined about Bobstruth
blog and Bob's unfailing support of MEN. It always pisses off mangina pussy boys when a MAN speaks out against feminism instead of apologizing for being a MAN and pandering to the misandrist feminazi dogma. Then, as the feminist dominatrix had demanded, mangina Howse deleted Bob's membership in the group and silenced the voice for MEN. The feminazi members of course had a field day congratulating each other for their success The Indiana Civil Rights Council
claims to be organized to foster and promote legal action on behalf of fathers who have been abused by the family courts, who have lost their children to evil minions in black robes, or who have otherwise suffered from a court system out of control. It's proposed course of action is to file over 3,000 federal court suits in each county in the US alleging that family courts are unconstitutional violations of civil rights. Their plan has as much chance as a snowball in hell, but we now know the real reason for the plan. It will divert a lot of men's energy down a dead end rat hole and prevent MEN from taking effective steps to stop the feminist steam roller that created and controls family courts. Of course, the court system is not really out of control, it is very much in control of the feminist dominated government, and the courts pander to the misandrist feminist agenda which created them. For a very good recent scholarly and very well documented study of how feminism created "family courts" and how the courts came to be so misandrist see Legalizing Misandry: From Public Shame to Systemic Discrimination Against Men
by Paul Nathanson and Katherine Young. HERE
The "family" court system is a product of 150 years of organized feminist hate of men, misandry. If any female ever fails to succeed in her demand for female dominance in the feminist courts it is NOT discrimination of lack of fairness. Unfortunately, the Indiana CRC has sold out to feminists and supports their whining complaints as "victims" because they failed to get everything they wanted. Even in the feminist created and legislated misandrist program of so-called "child support" and the fraud of "custody," a judge occasionally gives custody to the father. Mangina Howse pretends to support MEN, but behind the scenes he's a "male feminist," a "mangina," a pussy boy pandering to feminists and diverting the energy of men. When, once in a while, a FATHER has succeeded in getting custody of HIS children, it is a FAIR decision by the court, a decision best for the child and consistent with thousands of years of religious and civil law. Unfortunately Indiana CRC opposes the FATHER's rights to HIS child and supports the whiny feminists who claim victimhood. Instead of supporting FATHERS and MEN, it diverts the energy of MEN into support for the enemies of men.
On Tuesday, May 16, 2006, a feminazi member of IndianaCRC on Yahoo threw a hissy fit about Bobstruth
and a comment he made on the Yahoo group. In her feminazi arrogance she expected that no MAN is ever allowed to criticize the feminazi. It really pisses them off when a real MAN like Bob fails to kowtow, speaks the truth about feminist hate, and won't ever apologize for being a MAN. Ms. Feminazi Dara went hysterical and demanded that Bob be silenced. Here is her hate filled rant: Dara Dressel Tue May 16, 2006 6:23 pm
"BoB", (Mr. MAN)
Our membership and involvement in this group is extremely important to us. However, after receiving group messages from you, (which are about as vile and repulsive as your personal "blog" is) we are ashamed and embarrassed to be in a group with someone like yourself. It just occurred to us that you are attempting to turn this group, this cause, into your own personal woman-hater web site. (What...no success in starting your own group?...so you need to try to round up women haters on this site for your own personal cause?)
Your reference to females as "feminisnazis", "femmoroids" or etc., and men as "MEN" is typical of a woman hater. Just want to remind you that most of the population who is of "christian-like" faith consider that while you apparently are not "female", YOU, MOST DEFINITELY ARE NOT A MAN either! You keep bringing "satan" up...Perhaps, you are one of his little (and I do mean little) "helpers"? if not, just WHAT are you?
We come to resent getting e-mail with your name on it. Your mail permeates "hate". The only thing that you seem to be about is H-A-T-E.
Three words to describe "BoB and the "world" he is accordance of" = Little, Evil & Nothingness.
No need to reply...most of us already can guess what your reply would be...something to do with "hate" no doubt.
Other member of Indiana CRC, many of whom don't realize it's true pussy pink colors, objected to Ms. Dara's feminist hate speech: Sally pointed out that it was Dara who was spewing hate:
"Sally Broessel" Wed May 17, 2006 8:24 am
Dara et all,
I see no hate in Bob's postings. Perhaps irritation at the bias in the system. Now your posting is another story, there is hate and disrespect in that, which is uncalled for.
Tim observed that Bob is right most of the time and needs to be heard: Tim Wed May 17, 2006 10:27 am
I agree with Sally. Bob is over the top on occasion, but IMHO he does not need to be removed from our group.
Besides, he is right most of the time, it's just the delivery.
Well, of course the feminazi dominatrix was even more offended by the other members who supported Bob's right to speak. She went completely ballistic and started spewing all the usual feminist hate about how women once weren't members of Congress and other standard irrelevant feminist hate speech. Spewing the usual feminist hate is a call to action for a pussy-boy mangina like Howse, because Ms. Feminist Dara knows that a mangina will toe the line, apologize for being a man, and kiss her boots when she invokes feminist hate dogma. Here is her hate speech: Dara Dressel Wed May 17, 2006 1:01 pm
This group, cause, crusade or whatever you want to call it, is as we believe it to be, is about non-custodial parental rights. While most men, not women, get the raw end of the deal in our judicial system regarding divorce issues, we know several women (including myself) who ended up on the short end of the stick in our judicial court system all because the man had more money, power and influence. It works both ways.
BoB's "comments" referring to all women as "femmoroids," "femmininazis" and "bitches" instigates and promotes hate against all women in general. What does this have to do with this cause Sally? Gee...we were under the impression that this was about equality for parental rights to their children...according to BoB (and yourself) apparently, we are wrong in our thinking.
"Women" did not create this judicial mess that we are in. (They became fed up with "men" like BoB who refer to them as a hemmoroid!) There was a time, not long ago, where not ONE single female sat on any judicial bench or ONE single seat in the House, Congress or Senate.
If anything, it is the men who created the mess that put US ALL in. Us women are trying to help your cause.
The men and women (NCP's or not) that we know would NOT join a group that someone like BoB belongs to. Any male or female that we know that is going through a divorce etc., is not against ALL members of the opposite sex; just the one he is separating from and usually the judicial system that we are ALL ruled by.
We have enough negativity in our lives already. Most all of us have our former spouses to contend with who have "done us wrong" but BoB's the one who "Boo Hoo's" about the women on this planet.
Not only are BoB's comments offensive to both members of the opposite sex they are out of line in this forum. It's people like BoB who ruin it for the rest of us.
And, YOU apparently are as sick as he is.Feminist definition: "Sick" --> adj. 1. A man who consistently supports equal legal rights while opposing feminist domination. 2. Someone winning a debate with a feminist. 3. A man who refuses to kowtow to feminism. Usually used as an ad-hominem attack. Translation: "You're right on, but I won't admit it."
Regular readers of Bobstruth will recognize the several LIES she tells about what Bob says, and the feminist created "family" courts. Feminazi have never believed that truth has any value. The "truth" to a feminazi is whatever she "feels" that it is.
As soon as he read Ms. Feminist Dara's anger, mangina pussy boy Torm Howse had his marching orders. He genuflected, apologized for being male, and complied with the tormented demands of the feminazi. Instead of standing up for MEN, a mangina licks her boots and turns on real MEN. Here is what this boot licking pussy boy said:Torm Howse, President Indiana Civil Rights Council http://www.indianacrc.org
Wed May 17, 2006 2:38 pm
As MODERATOR/OWNER of this group, here is my *initial* take and perspective on the whole situation:
1 - hate inflames more hate, as anger begets more anger, etc., whether in words or deeds.
[It was noted by Sally that it was feminazi Dara who posted hate. Pussy boy Howse ignores whatever a feminazi does, and directs his attack on MEN.]2 - I initially agree with Tim's general conclusion (Bob is generally correct in raw information itself, is often, though, "over the top" in his presentation/delivery)... as far as only the posts made to this group so far...
[By "over the top" he means that Bob doesn't apologize for being a man in every post.]3 - However, as we have already easily seen, an "over the top" delivery can quickly bring [undesired / maybe unintentional ] feedback or results - and THAT is the core problem with credibility of the two ends of the gender spectrum extremists out there... My point is being proven even more WHILE I am composing this message -- during this time, there have already been a couple more posts on this quickly-devolving issue, that are taking this subject where it should NOT go... at least, not on this forum/group...
[By "unintentional results" the pussy boy means that the feminist dominatrixes are offended by having a MAN posting anti-feminist opinion. The "couple more posts" which he alludes to are copied above, both pointing out that it is Dara the feminazi who is out of tolerance. As a mangina Howse believes that the group should not go anywhere that offends the feminazi, or contradicts her misandrist victimology dogma.]4 - Moreover, I am *very deeply* disturbed at least one particular "article" on Bob's blogspot -- the one where Bob is actually condoning and supporting ALL FORMS OF RAPE to be considered as nothing more than a natural body function between two heterosexual people to be inherently enjoyed by BOTH parties.
[Regular readers of Bobstruth will notice that mangina Howse LIES about what Bob has said in order to conciliate his dominant bitch. Bob has, of course, said nothing of the sort and never "supported all forms of rape." Readers of Bobstruth will know that Bob has asked if any female has been physically hurt by rape, and has suggested criminal penalties for rape. Bob has never said as the lying fem-boy Howse misquotes. Lying fem-boy Howse does his genuflect to the pussies and continues.] I could never disagree more on almost any other topic on this planet or in human history, and the very notion would also correlate to similarly stating that any family court judge's RAPE of a natural parent's God-given and Constitutionally-recognized rights to his or her own children (i.e., turning them into a "noncustodial" parent) should be inherently accepted and enjoyed by that victimized parent. Indeed, it appears that 99% (or was it 100%?) of the responses to Bob's blogspot article on Rape also agree that it doesn't even come close to hitting the mark on any civilized discussion of the matter.
[Mangina pussy boy Howse rants on and on supporting feminazi rape-hate misandry. He confuses "family court" with rape, and blames his nonsense on Bob. Can anyone figure out what that confused sentence means? Pussy-boy Howse is so flustered by the feminazi disapproval that he's blathering apologies mixed with feminist hate dogma. ] While I do tend to agree with Bob that punishment for Rape (either gender), when there has been no involvement of beatings or physical violence, is often way overdone in proportion against the perpetrator, and agree that allegations of spousal rape can easily be problematic at best, and agree that many allegations of "rape" are likely at least somewhat falsified, at least to the extent of whatever has been claimed, the short story is that Rape - "real" Rape (whatever that is, or is not) - is simply not acceptable in human society... and, *rational* people agree with that general premise, I believe... especially with any perversion in condoning Rape by adults against children -- that is called "child molestation" -- not simply "Rape"...
[IOW, he knows that BOB is right in every point about rape on Bobstruth. But he can't bring himself to confront the feminazi dominatrix who's boots he is licking. He's a mangina, a pussy boy, a servant of females, a man who's sold out his sex for female approval, an enemy of MEN and the wrong man to be in charge of a men's group.] Yes, read the blogspot article and responses for yourself -- IF you can stomach such blatant and outrageous gender hate! http://bobstruth.blogspot.com/2006/04/has-any-female-ever-been-hurt-by-rape.html
[Yes, anyone who actually reads Bobstruth will quickly become aware that Bob is right about almost everything, and that pussy-boy Howse is LYING.] 5 - this group has never been, nor will ever be, tolerant of ANY outright gender-bashing. Period. Not. Ever... ever... It's repulsive to most rational people, and critically detrimental to the credibility and purpose of EQUAL PARENTING.
[Mangina pussy-boy Howse deliberatly ignores the misandrist bitch Dara who is the one posting gender hate. See Sally's reply to Dara. What he means is that he will support and excuse feminist misandry but he won't tolerate any MAN who opposes feminist misandry, not ever..ever..ever. Mangina pussy-boys are like that. The purpose of "equal parenting" is to divert energy of fathers into support for feminist dogma claiming mother's "rights" to our children. It subverts their purpose to speak the truth about feminism or the "family" courts.]Bob, there is one thing that is already obvious as to others, but not of yourself -- everyone on this group is already established as being victimized by a family court in some respect, whether "normal" divorce/paternity causes, or CPS, or guardianships, etc... However, I have absolutely no indication as to WHAT happened to you, as in -- what is the original reason that you ever got involved??? Was it, by any chance, an accusation of RAPE? Or, was it something of just being taken to the cleaners in a divorce without children? or what??
[Actually, Bob has been there, done all that, as child, father, grandfather, and legal activist for MEN's rights. Bob isn't a broken pussy boy feminazi appeaser like Howse. ]Actually, nevermind - this is much too much hatred... any association of such hatred won't be tolerated on this group. Time to use those powers.
Regards, Torm Howse, President Indiana Civil Rights Council http://www.indianacrc.org
Yes, pussy-boy snaps to attention when a feminazi posts long diatribes of feminist misandry. He "tolerates" hate but only when it's anti-men hate. What he won't tolerate is a MAN who objects to misandry and pisses off the feminazi who feed on misandry. The group is demonstrated to be a front for feminist agendas and another side track used to siphon off men's energy and prevent MEN from ever regaining our rightful place in society. Pussy boys like Howse who snap to attention and attack MEN when a feminazi cracks her whip have no place in a MEN's movement at all.
Sally Cautiously pointed out who really spewing hate on Indiana CRC, but of course the mangina pussy boy Howse can't see the feminist hate, he's too busy licking her boots and appologizing for being a man. Sally
Wed May 17, 2006 5:11 pm
Dara, and Torm
No, I agree with equality and not being bias for either side. I don't have a problem, except as I said - it was your post that seemed to me to be filled with hate and disrespect. Bob, or anyone, should not be calling names.
This is all I have to say - because I don't want an arguement.
She was chided by the pussy-boy Howse for daring to speak the truth about feminist hate. Pussy boys are almost as intolerant of truth about feminsim as are the feminists. Torm Howse
Wed May 17, 2006 7:23 pm
Thanks, Sally. I think we are done. It appeared that Dara seemed to be genuinely insulted from his earlier post or something,
So mangina pussy-boy Torm Howse acted in accord with the evil feminazi hate rant and deleted Bob from membership to silence the voice for MEN. Will the men's movement ever succeed when our energies are sidetracked by pussy-boy run groups like Indiana CRC? Can the rights of FATHERS ever be supported when a so-called father's group is subversively run to support and kowtow to feminists. Once again a mangina proves that only the voice of feminists are allowed to be heard in his faux-men's support group. Also see Faux men's activists protect daughters
on a previous Bobstruth
For any of you MEN (with balls) who are members of Indiana CRC on Yahoo or elsewhere, color yourselves pussy pink, or duped by a false feminist organization. Continuing to support CRC will not get MEN to where MEN need to go. Even if CRC succeeds it's goals are really intended to aid feminism and further the rights of females to our children. For MEN, it's time and money down the feminist rat hole. It's that kind of helping females that has cost us our rightful place in society and turned us into beasts of burden. Tell manginas like Howse to go lick feminist boots all he likes while real MEN will turn away from him and his pussy pink group. It's time for MEN to regrow their BALLS and tell the fembabes to pound sand!